Talk:Automatic quicken spell

I'm not sure if it would be better to drop the "I - III" from the article name or set up a redirect like this. (I'm pretty sure having to type the Roman numerals in links is inconvenient at best.) I went for the redirect (even though the main article still needs to be included in the Great Renaming). --The Krit 06:50, 13 September 2006 (PDT)

vs Improved Combat Casting
According to the article, you do not create AOO when casting in combat with quickened spells. In that sense, am I right in saying it just rendered Improved Combat Casting COMPLETELY useless? Or does ICC actually offer something which Automatic Quicken Spell III doesn't?


 * First of all, improved combat casting is useless, because of defensive casting. ICC require 25 concentration and two feat, defensive casting require no feat and does exactly the same thing. The maximum DC is 9+15(1 on Concentration check dont fail the save) so 24 concentration when ICC require 25. By the way automatic quicken spell have only one advantage, he dont require a combat mode. So you can still Improved expertise but require 3 feat...  Combat casting ¤Require 1 pre-epic feat ¤Require 1 epic feat ¤Require level 22 ¤Defensive casting does exactly the same thing whitout any prerequire ¤Require a combat mode  Automatic quicken spell III ¤Require 1 pre-epic feat ¤Require 3 epic feat ¤Require level 27 ¤Dont require a combat mode.  So ... ICC is only good on a server with expertise nerfed for caster and... is useless cause defensive mode does exactly the same thing. ILKAY 16:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)