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Effects

 * Effects Category, are you happy with all that is in there? As there are some from the .2da file that you sent me that I didn't add.They are to do with Abilities, skills, Feats, Magic, AC, AB and Damage that is talk about somewhere else. -- Pstarky 03:25, 30 Jun 2005 (PDT)
 * I'll take a look at it. Some of the 2da entries have more to do with game mechanics than how it works in reality, so no problem if some are not included. Sorry I haven't had time to work on the wiki lately; I've been super busy at work. Hopefully I can find some free time soon, so I can contribute. -- Austicke 17:10, 30 Jun 2005 (PDT)
 * Its cool, whenever you have time. I will have a look at setting up the Skills/Feats/Spell for BoW soon(So there a full list in the NwN part, then just the BoW changes in the BoW part). -- Pstarky 21:11, 30 Jun 2005 (PDT)

Main Page

 * I hope you dont mind the changes I made on the main page. You like it? You can reword anything to sound better or make something look better. I will have a look around to see if I can find a NWN logo and uplaod it to add next to the BoW one. -- Pstarky 03:21, 3 Jul 2005 (PDT)
 * Cool, NwN got a download called NWN FanSite Kit. If you want to have a look | NWN FanSite Kit. Nice resource.
 * I think we should ditch the BoW stuff and make this exclusively about NWN in general. We can have a category called Gameworlds where any servers can be entered and details can go on a single page (or just links to their web site). -- Austicke 05:17, 3 Jul 2005 (PDT)
 * Ok, so we still going to have a BoW Wiki site (Do you want me to keep making articles for BoW changes, and remove the BoW Changes out of the NwN side)? or just linked to BoW Website. Is there anything else to do to the NwN side? Im at work at the moment, where do you get the images from so I can download, then upload/link to pages if possible.. -- Pstarky 05:25, 3 Jul 2005 (PDT)
 * Yeah, I think we should remove the BoW stuff and make it about NWN in general. I hope to find the time to move the wiki to its own domain and then we can promote it to the NWN community. That would be great if you could help with the feat & spell graphics. I have them ready to go; they just need to be uploaded and added. Like I said, I just need to find a block of time. Hopefully soon. -- Austicke 19:40, 3 Jul 2005 (PDT)


 * So we just going to have BoW website link in the Gameworlds? No BoWWike at all? (Double checking before I go and delete/Clean up BoW side of this Wiki) -- Pstarky 00:11, 4 Jul 2005 (PDT)'
 * I think we should still have a 'BoWWike, because it could be a good recourse for Starting/Basic Character Building that is set around BoW environment. Just have a list of all the changed Classes/Skills/Feats/Spells to BoW. So when someone set up a build, they can link it to the changed class/skill/feat/spell to show the improvement or nerf for BoW, and add some info into the article why it works on BoW. Good recourse to the forums aswell? If we do want to have a BoWWike like this,(I think that was the main idea of this WIKI in the first place right? It was just own ideas got bigger. :P ) Is it possible to just copy this site to a NwNWike domain, so we have two copys at first. Then we just remove from each site what is not needed?? -- Pstarky 03:21, 4 Jul 2005 (PDT)

Help Articles
I was thinking of adding a Help article for Tables. Just a quick refence like you have done on editing. With all the wiki links that will be in the Help/Table articles, can we just link these to the wikipedia articles. For a example have a look at Help:Contents to see what I have done. I will have a look over the discussion we have had to see what else might be need for Help. Pstarky 04:52, 15 Aug 2005 (PDT)

Sounds good to me. -- Austicke 18:24, 15 Aug 2005 (PDT)

I have had a look at changing the links from wikipedia to Meta help pages. I cant work out a way to do this at all. The only way I see that this can be done is if we make all the links on these article External links to Meta. (Light blue) Is there way you know or can you have a look at it please? If it can be done show me and I do the rest of them. -- Pstarky 05:41, 4 Sep 2005 (PDT)

External links are fine. I'd prefer that people can easily tell they're leaving NWNWiki. -- Austicke 05:54, 4 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Ok I have linked most of it to Meta, but there are still some links going to Wikipedia. The reason for this is that Meta had these links going to Wikipedia aswell. I think I have got most of them. -- Pstarky 09:08, 4 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Cool, thanks! -- Austicke 09:26, 4 Sep 2005 (PDT)

NWNWiki logo
What do you think, workable with? The second file with plain black text look better smaller then the first one, thinking it would work it the top corner (for the link back to main page). The first one I think would look nice in we are still going have a heading on the main page as it is now. -- Pstarky 07:56, 16 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Awesome. I think the one with the blue looks better in all cases. We definitely need to use it on the front page. I'm not sure it'll work as the upper left corner logo, because it needs to be small & square. Maybe we just keep the eye for that? -- Austicke 08:08, 16 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Yep, Im cool with leaving the eye in the corner. -- Pstarky 08:10, 16 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Blue edging is good, my problem is the over-use of the curl on NWNW. The proper NWN titles (from NWN, SoU & HotU) only use major squiggley bits on the first letter of the line. The way it is now spaces out the letters way to much & don't match the original product design. -- Defunc7 aka Mr. Always-forgets-to-sign-name

Yeah, it's because the capital letters are more stylized, and four together space it out. Pstarky, I see what you mean about the blue outline not looking as good in the smaller size. -- Austicke 09:15, 16 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Pstarky, for the eye logo, do you have a way of making the background transparent, so it doesn't have the white box around it? I guess the background of the logo should be white, but it'd probably look better if the white background hugged the image instead of being a square. I don't know if that's possible. -- Austicke 09:16, 16 Sep 2005 (PDT)

I'm gonna take a guess & say u don't have much of an idea what u'r doing :p mainly because u don't seem to have any direct control over letter spacing & because u don't seem to know what anti-aliasing is. I wouldn't recommend gif-transparency, it always looks rubbish. If u got access to a something which can save to .png, I'd advise that for trans as I'm pretty sure .png supports alpha-channels. -- Not gonna sign, 'cause u'r not the boss a me! :p

I just uploaded a different NWNWiki logo, what do you think? Might even look good in the corner too. I will fix the eye to be trans aswell. -- Pstarky 09:42, 16 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Ok ppl stop playing games. What do you think about my other NWNWiki logo? -- Pstarky 12:03, 16 Sep 2005 (PDT)

with the drop-shadow? it certainly doesn't look anything like the NWN style now--Defunc7 12:16, 16 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Its Neverwinter Font, just mostly in lowcase. Personaly I think it looks close to NWN, but different which I think is good. If I try and make the shadow like NWN it just looks bad when the logo is reduced smaller. Just giving options. -- Pstarky 12:22, 16 Sep 2005 (PDT)

I like the NWN-like highlighting better than the blue drop-shadow; but, if it can't be done for the size, then it looks like we have little choice. Thanks for the transparent upper left hand corner logo. -- Austicke 09:07, 17 Sep 2005 (PDT)

I've stuck up a couple of examples of my attempts on my user-page thingy. Can't get them into .png format as I don't have anything for that format atm but seeing as it's going on the front-page, which is white backing, I don't see transparency mattering atm. It's all fully scalable (independant horizontal & vertical) vector with the blue-fuzz re-applied to match correct scale. Still getting a bit of a prob since my letters doesn't quite follow NWN font exactly so I get gaps & adjusting the blue-fuzz borders isn't exactly exact. --Defunc7 12:07, 17 Sep 2005 (PDT)

I think we should go back to the transparent eye logo (no blue fuzz) as some custum skins of WIKI are yellow or some different colour and blue fuzz does not look great. I really cant have another go a the logo until Im back at work on Wednesday. I dont have Photoshop/Illustator at home. :| I could make the logo look more like the first one again with just the blue shadow. (no white, just like the two Exp packs) Only if I could get my hands on BioWare original artist files, I could do so much more with the logo. :) The files I get use out of the Fan Site Kits are kind of crappy. :| Do we like the one line or the two lines for the type better?-- Pstarky 17:27, 17 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Umm that Blue fuzz around the eye is from my file. Does anyone know why it doing that? -- Pstarky 19:45, 17 Sep 2005 (PDT)

I'm not actually sure how to change my skin & I don't know how many people visiting the site are gonna bother with that either (if we drop the transparency thing, it might not actually matter). Not sure what u mean about ur blue-fuzz from ur file. If it's photoshop it could be from a layer effect or something.--Defunc7 06:34, 18 Sep 2005 (PDT)

I only cared about transparency for the upper left corner logo, which is now done. -- Austicke 07:01, 18 Sep 2005 (PDT)

The skin is changed in your Preferences -- Pstarky 08:16, 18 Sep 2005 (PDT)

yea, I worked that out :p --Defunc7 08:37, 18 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Make a Banner for NWNWiki? -- Pstarky 21:37, 2 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Good idea! I'd love to see one. -- Austicke 11:19, 4 Oct 2005 (PDT)

We need to look at the NWNWiki logo again and get it to a likable stage. I never had anything to do with making banner, but Im guess it something to do with assign a hyper-links a .tga/.jpg etc file. I like to learn. White or Black Background? -- Pstarky 04:34, 5 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Unfortunately, I know less than you. Perhaps post to NWNWiki talk:Community Portal? -- Austicke 06:25, 5 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Well I had some more time to have a look at making a logo. What you think people?



For the main logo on the Main Page

For the corner logo if we want to replace it from the eye. (does it still not look great that small?)

-- Pstarky 12:42, 5 Oct 2005 (PDT)

kkkkssshshhhshhshs, what's kshhshshhskkkkkssss that? you're kkssshshshs breaking up! ... it still looks scratchy. I'd say keep the eye for the corner. -- Defunc7 13:42, 5 Oct 2005 (PDT)

I like the new logo, Pstarky. How about adding it to the community portal for feedback? I agree with Defunc7 that the eye makes a better corner logo though. -- Austicke 14:29, 5 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Seeing the small one on the web a home (did these logos at work), and I have to argee about keeping the eye. I will copy the main one to Comunity portal. -- Pstarky 15:15, 5 Oct 2005 (PDT)


 * Anti-alias it. Or just do a gaussian blur. --Miborovsky 18:49, 6 Oct 2005 (PDT)
 * I've blurred it. Just a bit, though. See if you like this better. If not, feel free to revert. If you think it's too dark, feel free to correct it. This is a wiki after all. --Miborovsky 19:52, 8 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Toolset Category
Hi. I've added a few things to the toolset category. Well, let's restate that. I added an entry for the HardcoreRuleset and the rest just sort of grew from there. However, before I go hog wild here, I don't want to get into the same situation that NWN Resource Hunter or whatever his name was did. He didn't grasp the wiki concept very well and I do, I hope. However, I don't want to become a nuisance in my desire to contribute AND I certainly don't want to create more work for you guys as it looks like you already have plenty.

Any advice, comment, and/or criticism greatly appreciated.

Klingon Mage 12:45, 28 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Welcome, Klingon Mage. Thanks for joining us. We definately need help developing builder resources, so that's great! I'll try to pitch in where I can as well. -- Austicke 18:49, 28 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Suggestion: At present we have a main page category "Toolset" and then I've added another "Builder How-To". However, mightn't it be better to have a main page category "Builder Resources" and then show Toolset, Builder How-To et al as subcategories? Seems like that would be a more logical arrangement in keeping with the current neat clean main page. Klingon Mage

Ok Im not even going to pretend that I know anything about building. So, how many category's do you think could go under that heading? Should we keep it as it is now? Could have "Builder Rescourse", "Script Rescourse", etc? Just throwing ideas around the moment. -- Pstarky 03:17, 29 Sep 2005 (PDT)

I added a bunch of basic wiki tips on your talk page, Klingon Mage. -- Austicke 07:08, 29 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Tips noted and logged, Austicke. Pstarky: What I envision is a single "Builders" category. Under it would fall the general Toolset category, Probably a "How To" category and, if they are interested, maybe even some subcategories for things like the CEP, Hardcore Rules, PRC, etc. Make sense? Klingon Mage 08:11, 29 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Yep, sounds good. So its almost runs along the same idea Llandra's had on Main Page Discussion Categories? -- Pstarky 08:20, 29 Sep 2005 (PDT)

I noticed that too. In fact it might have spawned my own idea...can't remember...Klingon Mage 08:50, 29 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Template
Can we make a template like for warnings/pointing them to Sandbox to people that make funny edits? My spelling it not the best at times. -- Pstarky 13:41, 28 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Hehe, I like how you rephrased that. It's not uncommon to get a lot of newbies, so we need to be nice and hopefully help them to be good contributors. I can setup a template. -- Austicke 13:50, 28 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Thanks Alec. I dont want things to go down hill, when they just got off the ground. :) -- Pstarky 13:56, 28 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Vacation
I always have great timing. We get a BioWare Wednesday feature, activity is picking up, and I immediately go on vacation. I'll only be gone through the weekend though, so see you next week. Pstarky is a sysop, so he can help with anything in the meantime. Thanks! -- Austicke 18:52, 28 Sep 2005 (PDT)

I'm back from vacation and very happy to see there's been over 1,500 edits since I left. That's great, but now I want to review them all. Oy! -- Austicke 11:17, 4 Oct 2005 (PDT)

I finally finished reviewing all the edits while I was away. Whew! -- Austicke 23:51, 6 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Article vs Category view

 * Not sure if this is the place to reach you, but have a look at the Damage type vs Category:Damage types section. I think this is the way that we are saying it should be done, with as much information in the article as possible (including it linking to the category) and a simple reference in the category back to the article. Enigmatic 21:22, 4 Oct 2005 (PDT)


 * Perfect! -- Austicke 21:24, 4 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Style Guide
I think we need a Style Guide that is easily accessible and understood. Things like what to do (use the "Move page" button instead of blanking) and what not to do (cramp one mass of text with no formatting), how should tables be presented (avoid embedded tables), etc. This will give the wiki a consistent appearance and ease-of-use. What do you think? --Miborovsky 14:26, 9 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Good idea! I already started NWNWiki:Manual of Style, but there isn't much there yet. -- Austicke 15:04, 9 Oct 2005 (PDT)


 * I just did a partially completed infobox. Tell me if you like it. If so I can go on and make it look nicer. -- ÐœÐ¸Ð±Ð¾Ñ€Ð¾Ð²ÑÐºÐ¸Ð¹ U 15:34, 9 Oct 2005 (PDT)

It looks good, Miborovsky. I don't think we'd want to remove the other details, but it'd be nice to have a common info box like that. Very nice. -- Austicke 18:37, 9 Oct 2005 (PDT)


 * Try it out on one of the more complex classes that have more requirements (ie Weapon Master) and see how it goes. Enigmatic 18:39, 9 Oct 2005 (PDT)
 * Done. Not very presentable, the feats section, but I can do something with it using up-down instead of left-right...


 * Why not try putting the "Lvl 10 Weapon Master" under requirements and allowing the feats etc to go the full length of the border? Enigmatic 23:16, 9 Oct 2005 (PDT)
 * Well, I wanted for the right side to be Epic-specific. But I guess there is no requirements for Epic characters besides being lvl 10 in that class, so I guess we could take it out. But all the epic feats etc need to go somewhere. -- ÐœÐ¸Ð±Ð¾Ñ€Ð¾Ð²ÑÐºÐ¸Ð¹ U 23:36, 9 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Im with Alec, with keeping the information as it is. It still would be good to have that infobox for a quick reference for those that need a small reminder what is required for the class, and the HD/Skill they get. Tring to add all the info into the box/table is just going to look too messy. (sorry Enigmatic) -- Pstarky 02:49, 10 Oct 2005 (PDT)

I just had a look at changing the Weapon Master infobox. What do people think? -- Pstarky 05:11, 10 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Purpose
Another thing. It would be the most sensible to make the focus of this wiki NOT simply character class descriptions and such, things that would be found with little effort in the manual. The best thing would be to have, for example, on the RDD, a box with a picture, listing it's vital statistics, feats, blahblahblah, with the main feature being user-input and notes and tips and suggestions, and guides from various forumnites if we can get their opinion. Thoughts? -- ÐœÐ¸Ð±Ð¾Ñ€Ð¾Ð²ÑÐºÐ¸Ð¹ U 14:37, 9 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Exactly. It's nice to have the basics, but I'd like see the notes section of articles expand with tips and tricks. -- Austicke 15:05, 9 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Well I am not up for removing any information or reduction the amount of information we have now. Everyone has/is adding notes/tips/hints already, so this purpose has started already. Yes most of this information is in the manuals, but quiet a bit of that information is wrong or misleading in the manuals. We have tried/tring to fix those errors and make that information that was misleading a bit clearer, by changing the information in the classes or decriptions to the correct information or/and add Notes/tips/ints. One of the hopes (well atleast for me) of this wiki was that people wouldnt have to pick up a manual (Sorry BioWare. :) ) and hope the information was correct. They could just come here and get all the information they need and know it is the right information and have some helpful notes/tips/hints. Look Im all for those infoboxes, they are a great idea. They would be great to have at the the beginning of each article as a quick reference or have a Quick Reference article linked from the main article. Sorry if I come out sounding rude here. -- Pstarky 03:26, 10 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Web Host
Your web host is killer! Followed the link to it that you left in BT's talk. I think I may change my websites over to it when I can save up enough cash to take advantage of the special pricing. [mailto:turbo100110@yahoo.com Email me] so I can make sure you get referral credit (I think they pay like $97 per referral or something like that...]. Thanks for the heads up on this great host! Klingon Mage 17:22, 9 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Thanks, Klingon Mage. Yeah, I've used DreamHost for a few years and have been very happy with them. That link has my referral, so that should do it. My email is [mailto:alec@usticke.org alec@usticke.org] though. -- Austicke 18:36, 9 Oct 2005 (PDT)

Cascading Style Sheet

 * Just out of curiosity, I noticed on the Star Wars Wiki that they were using classes, and wondered if we have access to a NWN specific stylesheet for here (ie the skin one)? Reason I ask is that some of the templates we are creating could potentially benefit from using CSS so that we could have a "default" setting for all tables, and possibly even "pretty up" certain things around the place through some prudent use of a style sheet. Enigmatic 17:29, 10 Oct 2005 (PDT)