Talk:Psionic mind blast

Psionic abilities
I'm not sure if this is the right talk page, but I wanted to share an observation I did today: against the "Psionic Mind Blast" cone attack of a Mind Flayer, I observed that the "Hardiness vs spells" feat of dwarves did apply (thus classificating this spell-like ability as "spell"), while the feat "Still Mind" of monks apparently did not apply. This struck me as odd, considering that the only effect of the cone attack itself was inflicting "stun" on the PC, and Still Mind is supposed to be triggered by mind-affecting spells. I also noticed that against the "Psionic Mind Blast 10m radius" and the "Psionic Charm Monster" both feats did seem to apply, thus the anomaly is apparently not linked to any special behaviour of the psionic spell-like abilities, but rather it is limited to the specific "Psionic Mind Blast" cone attack. Titanium Elemental (talk) 16:59, September 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * The saving throw depends not on the effect (stun in this case) but on saving throw type defined in script. In almost all cases this matches with the effect, sometimes however do not. Personally I would call this a bug - at least in this case, but well I bet that admin of this wiki knows better. Anyway, all saves made from spells are automatically treated as spell-subtype so thats why spellcraft or hardiness vs spells applies. In order save could consider other saving throw subtypes as well, this must be written in the spellscript. This mind blast has as a saving throw subtype "vs spells" which is in this context same as none as "vs spells" is considered automatically. There are more exceptions such as storm of vengeance - save vs electricity, stun if failed (not a problem) or stonehold - save vs mind spells or paralyzed (a little graphic problem as the save is neccessarily made in case the target has immunity to paralyse, but no big deal). 77.92.213.119 21:17, September 13, 2012 (UTC)