Category talk:Weapons

cat Split

• okay, I understand that this is being broken up into to toolset listings. But to be 'onest I think the larger % of people visiting here are looking for the ingame listings, i.e. the weapons split up according to proficiency requirement. There's an obvious conflict between the two when double-swords are both exotic & double-sided, quarterstaffs are not doublesided in game etc.--Defunc7 08:05, 4 Oct 2005 (PDT)
• Yes, Bioware did make things difficult with the toolset. I would be happy to re-organise them so that perhaps there is a toolset article(s) relating how it looks from that side, and then leaving the breakdown more like people expect to see. Please let me know your suggestions and then I will get to it. Enigmatic 15:35, 4 Oct 2005 (PDT)
• I'd keep the sub-cats on this page specific to the player's view of weapons. The toolset section deals with the toolset categorisation of weapons already.--Defunc7 08:18, 11 Oct 2005 (PDT)
• Agreed. I am still in the process of fixing some of this up, and trying to get away from the toolset categorizations where I can. This is the reason I now have definitions for axes, polearms, bladed weapons (chose that over swords because some are too small to be swords), etc. Do you have any suggestions as to any other sub-categories can be made which are not specific to the toolset? Enigmatic 15:59, 11 Oct 2005 (PDT)
• Well, to be blantantly obvious, sub-cats of the proficiencies (simple, martial, exotic, rogue etc), size sub-cat (tiny, small etc), ranged, melee, damage type(blunt, slash, piercing). Or is that sub-cats of sub-cats--Defunc7 16:13, 11 Oct 2005 (PDT)
• Not sure if its a good idea to provide a sub-cat based on proficiency, especially as they already list the proficiencies in them. I think the terms "bladed weapons" and "blunt weapons" already goes a long way to describing damage type (and each damage type does list which weapons that relates to). Size might be a good one... though then again the new "Weapon size modifier" shows this breakdown. Maybe the top of the category needs to show some of these links (ie "To find weapons based on size go to HERE, to find weapons based on damage type go to HERE") Enigmatic 16:29, 11 Oct 2005 (PDT)
• I've always see Categories as basically a way of filtering down to what u want. (e.g. items>weapons>rogue prof). It's why we have an epic feat subcat within the feat cat & not just link people to the HotU page for a list of the epic feats, & why each epic feat will appear in both cat & sub-cat.

a few words at the top

• From ranged weapons cat... "Ranged Weapons refer to items which can be used to perform an attack roll when you are not directly in melee with an opponent." This is kinda wrong in the fact that they can hit u in melee & u can still shoot them in the face, while ur not exactly melee-ing there's not a real dicernable difference. Maybe add a reference to point-blank shots & AoOs etc instead.--Defunc7 08:20, 4 Oct 2005 (PDT)