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Bull Rush checkEdit

Can someone explain how the strength check works? Is the DC on the strength check 14 + the caster level + caster ability modifier + evocation spell focus bonus, or 14 + spell level (6) + caster ability modifier + evocation spell focus bonus, or something else entirely? -- 199.103.208.200

The script is:

int nCasterRoll = d20(1) + 14;
int nTargetRoll = d20(1) + GetAbilityModifier(ABILITY_STRENGTH, oTarget) + GetSizeModifier(oTarget);
// * bullrush succesful, knockdown target for duration of spell
if (nCasterRoll >= nTargetRoll)

So, it's caster d20 + 14 vs. target d20 + Str modifier + size modifier. The caster needs to match or exceed the target's modified roll.

The size modifier:

  • Tiny -8
  • Small (Halfling, Gnome) -4
  • Medium (all other PC races) 0
  • Large +4
  • Huge +8

I hope this helps. -- Austicke 07:23, 20 Sep 2005 (PDT)

evocation spell focus Edit

evocation spell focus does not effect the DC of this spell. -- User:216.183.185.137 October 2007

  • Correct. Since this spell has no saving throw, spell focus does not affect it. --The Krit 01:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

a nice combo to be noted would be negative energy burst against high STR builds to increase the effective DC of your cast of bigby's forceful, provided they have a sufficiently low will save. -- User:216.183.185.137 October 2007

  • I like to use Rogue's Crippling Strike feat with this. It fails against Pale Master builds but it's pretty effective otherwise. --AtriumXP

KD blocked by immunity to mind-affecting ? Edit

Immunity to either daze (including general mind-affecting immunity) or knockdown prevents both effects from this spell.

As far as I can tell, at least the first part of that simply isn't true. I have tested with mages casting BFH on targets with immunity to mind-affecting spells and targets with a scripted specific immunity from daze: Those that lost the bull rush were still knocked down.  - MrZork (talk) 07:09, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

  • You appear to be correct. Though the effects are linked, blocking one does not block the other. WhiZard (talk) 17:24, July 8, 2014 (UTC)
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