Prerequisites[]
- I wanted to make a note about Class feats not needing to meet the pre-requisites but wasn't sure where it would be appropriate. Would a separate page for feats gained as a result of class levels be appropriate?RAMss 02:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- The pre-requisistes for class feats are having the stated class level, and you do need to meet that. Did you mean the general feats that monks and rangers get at certain levels? I thought that was mentioned in those class' articles or in the individual feat articles. There aren't really enough of these feats to warrant mentioning them anywhere else. --The Krit 22:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Feat-based Buffs[]
Are ALL feat-based buffs like HS Cat's Grace, Asssasin Darkness/Invisibility, SD shadow daze, Divine Might/Shield, etc. immune to dispel or rather subject to the same spell-level limitations as a spellcaster? Is the action to apply them interruptable? Is it subject to an AoO? Or must they be considered on a feat-by-feat basis in regards to those counter measures? I'm fairly certain there is no Concentration check involved but am not 100% certain. TIA for any insight into the dynamics of these effects. --Iconclast (talk) 12:50, March 25, 2016 (UTC)
- Feat based effects are dispellable at the caster's total character level (see point five in the dispel article) unless they are supernatural or extraordinary effects. AoO and being subject to interruption (with concentration check) occur if the feat has a user type of 1 in spells.2da (typically the norm for feats that mimic spells). WhiZard (talk) 14:55, March 25, 2016 (UTC)
- To follow up, of the feats mentioned above, only Divine Might and Divine Shield are supernatural effects. The rest can be dispelled which, IMO substantially lessens their value as buffs and which may not be apparent to many players. In fact, though Shadow Daze is not a buff (you might have meant Shadow Evade, which is also dispellable) it can be dispelled. (The script even has a spell resistance check, though that isn't observed.) - MrZork (talk) 21:34, March 26, 2016 (UTC)
- As a rule if thumb, if a feat mimics a spell then assume it is dispellable. There might be an exception that I'm forgetting, but as I recall all spell-mimicing feats use the spells' scripts, so the effects would be have the same subtype (magical, extraordinary, or supernatural) as if cast by the spells. --The Krit (talk) 01:35, March 27, 2016 (UTC)