No penalty?[edit source]

Has anyone confirmed that this spell's effect does not penalize stealth? A light source on someone in stealth mode at night is supposed to be a -10 penalty to hide. --The Krit 21:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

It's hard to get concrete results out of the fiddly stealth engine, but as best I can tell, the Light penalty functions propertly (both the item property and the spell effect).
1d10 + 0 Spot vs 1d20 + 10 Hide, Spotter has darkvision, Hider is medium sized, neither are moving or in combat, spotter is facing hider. Misc modifiers should balance out to 0. Managed to go 10 minutes without being spotted normally, managed to get spotted with Light item property and Spell effect. Although there were times where it felt like it wasn't working, I believe that was a case of the resulting 1d10 vs 1d20 check being uncooperative combined with how infrequently NPCs reroll stealth numbers. --FuzzyOne (talk) 22:29, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, testing the modifiers can be tough. (When I tried testing this, I wasn't able to confirm my base case -- detecting the penalty with a normal light.) Since people have had a couple of years to present evidence in support of this claim, I'm willing to remove the note based on your testing. --The Krit (talk) 03:46, February 20, 2014 (UTC)
Seems like a similar edit might be appropriate for the continual flame article. - MrZork (talk) 23:54, February 21, 2014 (UTC)
Ack, forgot about that one. --The Krit (talk) 03:23, February 22, 2014 (UTC)
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