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An exact amount of speed gain I know is equal to your monks levels. I seam to remember it is about 10% for every 3 additional levels. DaBear 09:44, 16 Nov 2005 (PST)

Well I now see there is a handy chart Monk and a link under Monk speed so ignore. DaBear 13:20, 16 Nov 2005 (PST)

It seems the ingame description of monk endurance is monk speed under 1.67. Perhaps a change to monk speed is in order for linkage? Harleyquin 18:54, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

I checked a version 1.22 installation, and the name was "Monk Speed" back then also. So I moved the page. --The Krit 01:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)


Removing custom content note[]

I am removing the following (old) note:

This feat can be added to iprp_feats.2da to make it available as an item feat. However, this is pointless unless the feat acquirement list is changed.

The reason for the removal is that the feat won't function as an item feat, but can change the maximum speed when taken on level up. The ability to change the character file (and alter which feat was gained when) is probably too technical for this wikia. The last sentence may also give the false impression that scheduling a class to take the feat can allow for the feat's usage earlier if found on an item. The speed bonus (the described usage of the feat) is a calculation based on monk level, rather than the level of the class that first took it. WhiZard 04:23, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

  • I think you missed at least part of the point of that note. The note was saying first, that the feat can be made to appear on items (by modifying the .2da). Second, it was saying that this is pointless because the feat only benefits level 3+ monks and those characters get the feat automatically. The end result is that there is no character that would benefit from this feat being on an item unless "the feat acquirement list [cls_feat_monk.2da] is changed", specifically to stop automatically giving the feat to level 3 monks. The last sentence is saying that scheduling monks to take the feat later can allow for the feat's usage earlier than the new scheduled time (but still not before monk 3) if the feat is found on an item, which is not something you're disputing. (Also, there is nothing in that note referring to editing a character file; the "feat acquirement list" is the class feat .2da, not the "feats acquired list" that appears in .bic's.)
On the other hand, I've not found those "item feat" notes to be particularly insightful. I'd be interested to know if any custom content makers have ever referenced them. --The Krit 03:15, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
  • I did dispute the claim that monks get an earlier bonus with the sentence: The last sentence may also give the false impression that scheduling a class to take the feat can allow for the feat's usage earlier if found on an item. WhiZard 03:20, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
  • No, the last sentence says nothing about giving the feat to non-monks. (In fact, such a conclusion would be disregarding the information given earlier in the section about the feat only working for monks.) --The Krit 03:41, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
  • I have reviewed my notes and they did have a hole in testing specifically for the monk class. I have redone the testing and level 1 (and higher) monks can use this feat as an item feat granting both speed bonus and maximum speed increase, while all non-monks gain nothing from the bonus feat, and must actually take the feat on level-up to get the maximum speed increase. WhiZard 16:27, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Does Monk Speed stack with increased speed from riding a horse?[]

If you're riding a horse, is your movement speed just the usual 150% of normal movement speed or is it higher if you're a monk? For example, if you're a level 7 monk and you have a 20% speed bonus from Monk Speed, is your speed mounted 150% or 170%? -- HolyGuardian80 (talk) 04:19, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

  • One of the issues with horse riding was monk speed. The decision was made to negate the monk speed bonus so that the speed of the horse did not depend on who rides it. The way the horse riding article is phrased makes me think the negation is bugged, though, which rings familiar, but it's been a while since I dug through the scripts. So a mounted monk should be at (or near) 150% normal speed (and even if that was not the case, movement speeds combine multiplicatively; combining a 50% movement speed increase with 20% monk speed gives 1.5 * 1.2 = 1.8, or 180% speed). --The Krit (talk) 01:37, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
  • I am currently playing a level 12 monk. It does seem that monk speed stacks with the increased speed from horse-riding since I move quite a bit faster when mounted. Moreover, as a monk, the increased speed from riding a horse stacks with the increased speed from the Haste spell. A monk riding a horse hasted moves at a very fast speed indeed, whereas Haste does not stack with mounted speed for any character without the Monk Speed feat. --HolyGuardian80 (talk) 11:48, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Yep, that's what happens. The horse riding script tries to negate monk speed while mounted, but it only partially succeeds. Haste, horse speed, and monk speed all stack for all characters, but since horse speed maxes out the movement rate bonus for non-monks, only monks notice. (This is like getting cat's grace when your items already put you at the dex bonus cap – the effects do stack, but the cap prevents you from seeing that. ) The cap for non-monks is 150% of base speed, and horse riding puts the character at 150%. So even though haste stacks, the cap prevents the stacking from being noticed. The cap for monks is at least 300% of base speed (it depends on level), so monks can see the stacking. --The Krit (talk) 22:03, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
  • I've double-checked the horse riding script (for emphasis: even though this is the monk speed talk page, the question is really about horse riding). As I had vaguely recalled earlier, the script assumes additive combing of boni when they combine multiplicatively. So when a monk with +20% from monk speed mounts a horse, the new speed is 120% × 130%, for a net bonus of +56%. Faster than unmounted and faster than other mounted characters, but well short of the +80% you would get if there had not been an attempt to negate monk speed. --The Krit (talk) 22:40, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
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